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- From: floyd@polarnet.com (Floyd Davidson)
- Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
- Subject: Re: How Does One Contact The Phone Company About Noise Problems?
- Date: 24 Mar 1996 07:00:11 GMT
- Organization: __________
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- References: <4j2ic5$kor@vista.hevanet.com>
- Reply-To: floyd@tanana.polarnet.com
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-
- mreiney@hevanet.com wrote:
- >I have an intermittent line noise problem. There's an
- >intermittent audible popping and crackling noise on the line when
- >I connect to my ISP. When the noise is present, it either won't
- >connect at all or the data rate goes to zero. It's worst around
- >midnight. It's not there on connections to other BBS numbers.
- >
- >This ain't no little data disturbance. It would be quite
- >objectionable on a voice call.
- >
- >The only available trouble number rings to some central service
- >center 1000 miles away. During the times I can get thru, the
- >noise is usually not there. So when they test the line, it's OK.
- ...
- >My ISP is connnected thru a different phone company. So each
- >points the finger at the other. Both want me to authorize
- >undisclosed service charges if they go out to take a look.
-
- Probably when they test your line (or the ISP's lines) it will
- _always_ be OK! It sounds more like you might have spotted a
- problem with interoffice trunking, rather than on either your line
- (where it would show up no matter what number you call), or on the
- ISP's lines (where everyone who calls them would be getting the
- same thing and the ISP would be raising hell with the phone
- company too). Instead, you wouldn't by any chance be one of
- relatively few subscribers to that ISP who dial in from that
- particular CO, would you???
-
- Tell them you don't want your line checked because it obviously is
- good. Then ask for instructions to make a complaint the the state
- regulatory agency. Inform them that as long as progress is being
- made you will not file a complaint...
-
- >The phone company refuses to give me access to local service
- >people who might actually be able to help. They won't even give
- >me a way to call back to the person that I talked with last time.
- >
- >Aside from hijacking a GTE truck, is there any way to get thru to
- >the local phone company?
-
- It is very unlikely that you will succeed in doing that, truck or
- no truck. If you file enough complaints it is very likely that
- the local office will call you instead, to find out what is
- actually wrong. They do get tired of seeing the same trouble
- report every day!
-
- But until that happens, the thing to do is ask for a trouble
- ticket or trouble tracking number. Also ask for the name or
- initials of the person you are talking to each and every time you
- call them. Make it very obvious that you are keeping a log of
- your dealings with them. Ask for an expected time of action and
- tell them you will call back at that time for a status report.
-
- That is exactly the way that telephone companies treat each other,
- and should not be unfamiliar to them. If you don't seem to be
- making progress (and do NOT expect instant fixes or other
- miracles) then ask for a higher level of management. Each higher
- level should refer you back down the line again. If you get the
- same lower level and they do not change the response, then go back
- up the ladder. If that gets you the same response, ask for
- another higher level. But do let each level have a chance to give
- corrective guidance to the lower level.
-
- As a last resort, complain to the state regulatory agency. Ask
- them how to formally complain too, because it may make a big
- difference.
-
- >Also, redialing a lot usually finds a path that works. Is there a
- >way to force the routing thru a particular path in the switching
- >system?
-
- No. But that reinforces the idea that you have spotted a trunk
- problem. It sounds as if not all of the trunks are affected, and
- the trick is hitting one of them. If the first choice trunks are
- bad, then at midnight when the traffic is light you will be more
- likely to get a bad trunk than during the rest of the day... which
- might account for your observation that it is worse at that time
- of the day.
-
- The description you gave of the noise is a fair description of
- what happens when a T1 system (24 trunks) is having timing
- problems that are so bad that it completely loses synchronization.
- The result is called "Loss of Frame" or LOF. It causes a very
- noticeable crackling or popping sound that will generally
- completely drive a modem connection bonkers. There are, of
- course, other possible causes...
-
- Floyd
-
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- Floyd L. Davidson Salcha, Alaska floyd@tanana.polarnet.com
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